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RE: trapdoor.merit.edu and other impatient Postfix mailers everyw

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Roeland Meyer)
Fri Aug 3 11:53:17 2001

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From: Roeland Meyer <rmeyer@mhsc.com>
To: "'Steven J. Sobol'" <sjsobol@NorthShoreTechnologies.net>,
	Matt Martini <martini@invision.net>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 08:55:51 -0700 
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> From: Steven J. Sobol [mailto:sjsobol@NorthShoreTechnologies.net]
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 5:31 PM
> 
> On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Matt Martini wrote:
> 
> > I never liked the idea of someone else, with an agenda that I'm sure
> > doesn't coinside with mine, telling me who I should talk to 
> > or not. When
> > the source code defaulted to using these "services" that's 
> > when I bailed on sendmail.
> 
> No one forces people to use the dnsbl feature, nor are they 
> forced to use
> the default settings. dnsbl is turned off by default. Give me a break.
> 
> I can't believe I'm hearing the crap I'm hearing from people 
> who should know better.

Agreed. For the record, when I was still using sendmail, I had to build a
new sendmail.cf on every install. The default, from Caldera, doesn't do RBL
by default, or a lot of anything else. I am now using MS-Exchange for
corporate groupware and am deploying Postfix for end-user usage. Since MAPS
is no longer freeware (a fact that I do NOT begrudge them), I will no longer
be using the RBL. It was of limited use anyway because, I have way too many
Earthlink based users and Earthlink seems to have taken up permanent
residency in the RBL <sigh>.

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