[40162] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: trapdoor.merit.edu and other impatient Postfix mailers everywhere (fwd)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Chris Adams)
Thu Aug 2 18:23:15 2001
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 17:22:44 -0500
From: Chris Adams <cmadams@hiwaay.net>
To: "Gary E. Miller" <gem@rellim.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
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Once upon a time, Gary E. Miller <gem@rellim.com> said:
> On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Chris Adams wrote:
> > ..., I would have figured they could afford to pay 5¢ per mailbox per
> > year (and MAPS might have even worked out a better rate than that for
> > the big guys).
>
> http://www.mail-abuse.org/feestructure.html
>
> Per year, for $1,000 users, cheapest option, standard pricing
> RBL+ $1,250
> DUL $500
> RSS $700
> $2,450
>
> or $2.40/per mailbox per year. Sorry my budget does not go there...
RBL+ already _includes_ DUL and RSS - that is how it differs from plain
RBL. So, you only need the RBL+ (you've just about doubled your cost
for no reason). Also, I was talking about zone transfer mode. If you
only loaded the zone on a nameserver running on the same system as your
mail server, for 1000 users your cost would be $1.30 per mailbox per
year, or a little over 10¢ per mailbox per month.
For big mail servers (like Yahoo), the $1250 per nameserver fee isn't
all that much and is a fixed cost (they don't need to add nameservers as
they add mailboxes), and the mailboxes fee is $50 per 1000 users, or 5¢
per user per year.
For our 30,000 users and 2 nameservers, the annual fee is $4000, or just
over 13¢ per user. For someone with 250,000 users and 5 nameservers
(just to pick some numbers), the per user fee would be down to 7.5¢ per
user.
I'm not trying to justify MAPS price for every site out there. I was
merely pointing out that if the "big guys" (some of which appear to have
been just taking a free ride) had helped MAPS out before, we might not
have reached this point.
--
Chris Adams <cmadams@hiwaay.net>
Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services
I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.
