[39951] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Relative ISP size (was Broadwing)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Karyn Ulriksen)
Fri Jul 27 14:30:47 2001
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From: "Karyn Ulriksen" <valkaryn@valkaryn.net>
To: "David Barak" <thegameiam@yahoo.com>, <nanog@merit.edu>
Cc: <hansel.lee@corp.winfirst.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 11:23:55 -0700
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Refinement and revisement of "standard" terms and definitions is all well
and good. Order of the day and all - we are definitely not a static
industry. But tolerance during these redefinitions transitions is indicated
unless you *want* to retain the reputation that too many netheads have by
upper management views. I know we all didn't get her by being jack@##3#,
let's leave that to [insert your favorite whipping boy department here].
K
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of
David Barak
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 10:51 AM
To: nanog@merit.edu
Cc: valkaryn@valkaryn.net; hansel.lee@corp.winfirst.com
Subject: Relative ISP size (was Broadwing)
Quoth Karyn:
>Just remember that Broadwing is not actually a Tier 1
>provider. They are a
>Tier 2 striving to become a Tier 1. When I was
>looking at them, I found
>that you could obtain just as good or better pricing
>from an actual Tier 1
>provider. Check out Exodus, Verio, and Genuity.
Last >I checked they were
>offering some seriously competitive pricing on OCs.
I just thought your list of Tier 1 providers was
interesting - that gets back to the (very) old
argument about exactly what "Tier-1" means, and that
tends to be a religious argument for many. I like the
Skitter approach myself - www.caida.org - if they're
in red or yellow, they're Tier 1, if purple, tier 2...
David Barak
"Quis custodes ipsos custodiet?" - Juvenal
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