[39925] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: The large ISPs and Peering
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Fletcher E Kittredge)
Thu Jul 26 13:37:12 2001
Message-Id: <200107261730.f6QHUVV16474@smtp.gwi.net>
To: Curtis Maurand <curtis@lamere.net>
Cc: "Jeb R. Linton" <jeblinton@corp.earthlink.net>,
"'Daniel Golding'" <dan@netrail.net>,
"'Peering Resistance'" <peeringresistance@yahoo.com>, nanog@merit.edu
Reply-To: "Jeb R. Linton" <jeblinton@corp.earthlink.net>
In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 26 Jul 2001 11:21:54 EDT."
<Pine.LNX.4.30.0107261020100.25725-100000@mail.lamere.net>
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 13:30:28 -0400
From: Fletcher E Kittredge <fkittred@gwi.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 11:21:54 -0400 (EDT) Curtis Maurand wrote:
> >
> > Non-Tier-1 players are by no means being excluded from getting into these
> > facilities - exactly the opposite. The facility vendors are pushing to get
> > them in. The only thing were weren't included in is the choice of
> > facilities; if the Tier-1s want to form a consortium (they call it that,
> > rather than a "cartel"), it's certainly within their rights to do so.
>
> A rose by any other name... The fact is, and history shows us, that when
> cartels form, things get bad for the consumer. Oil, Electricity,
> telecomm. However, The placement of the NAP's is disconcerting, because
> the process for choosing them was closed. Does it make sense for all of
> my traffic going to maine.rr.com from lamere.net (both in Maine and in the
> same communities) to exchange traffic at MAE east 650 miles away?
Curtis,
As an aside, there actually is a peering point in Portland,
ME, USA located in One City Center. I heard a rumor you folk were
planning to join. I hope you do. Honestly, I think the reason your
traffic takes the above route is internal resistance inside
your own company....
good luck,
fletcher
