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Re: Agenda for next NANOG

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Guy T Almes)
Tue Sep 3 09:49:57 1996

Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 09:33:41 -0400
To: randy@psg.com (Randy Bush)
From: Guy T Almes <almes@advanced.org>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu

Randy,
  There is a cluster of closely-related variants on the issue
you raise:
[] to what extent does a given exchange point (NAP/MAE/etc) constrain
   the performance that a user sees (in what a user thinks of as end-
   to-end).  For example, an FTP could flow at 800 kb/s for a given
   pair of users, except that MAE-north is congested, so the FTP can
   only flow at 400 kb/s.
[] to what extent does a given exchange point constrain the performance
   that a provider sees (in what a provider thinks of as end-to-end).
   For example, a given pair of backbones could sustain 20 Mb/s over a
   private interconnect with acceptable packet loss, but can only sustain
   10 Mb/s over the Altoona NAP.
From different perspectives, each of these notions of end-to-end has
meaning.  Would you want to consider one or the other or both in the
panel?
        -- Guy

At 01:11 PM 8/30/96 PDT, Randy Bush wrote:
>>> Analysis of Actual End to End Performance accross the NAPs/MAEs
>> An excellent topic, to be sure, but how do you propose that this be
>> measured?
>
>And there's a subject for a NANOG panel in itself.
>
>I can think of some interesting experiments that would involve cooperation
>of multiple peers.  But there are folk far better based in measurment than I
>who might suggest some fun stuff.  Guy, Steve, ..., this is your cue.
>
>randy
>


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