[39883] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: product liability (was 'we should all be uncomfortable with
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Gary E. Miller)
Wed Jul 25 18:58:43 2001
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 15:52:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Gary E. Miller" <gem@rellim.com>
To: Chance Whaley <chance@dreamscope.com>
Cc: <nanog@nanog.org>
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Yo Chance!
On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, Chance Whaley wrote:
> I don't remember IBM or EDS being sued on the times when ATC has failed.
> Jeppeson hasn't been sued for issuing incorrect maps either. Software
> programmers arent sued when monitoring machines in hospitals fail. Oh
> that's right, because there are neat things called "Limits of
> Liability", "Gross Negligence", and "Malicious Intent".
Do some research. Just because you have not heard about it does not
mean it did not happen. Jeppeson lost a BIG one after the AA crash in Cali.
Jeppesson still has suits pending about Ron Brown's (US Commerce
Secretary) going down in Kosovo. Technicare (a former client of mine)
lost a BIG one after the runaway software on a CAT scanner fried a patient
to death. Never heard of anyone dieing due to an ATC outage so that
issue is still open.
In any case, the comment I was replying to was about software not
being able to hurt anybody. The US legal system found in two of the
cases above that it can and has.
RGDS
GARY
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