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Re: 'we should all be uncomfortable with the extent to which luck ..'

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Shaw)
Wed Jul 25 15:22:34 2001

Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 15:21:56 -0400
From: David Shaw <dshaw@jabberwocky.com>
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
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On Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 02:59:59PM -0400, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jul 2001 14:45:44 EDT, David Shaw said:
> 
> > telnetd is not inherently bad.  It is a tool that is lacking the
> > session encryption and strong authentication features of SSH, but is
> 
> See RFCs 2941 through 2953.  Just because your telnetd doesn't implement
> it doesn't mean it's not available.

True :)  I should have said "usually lacking".

> Having said that, I still use ssh for most stuff. ;)

Oh, so do I.  I was just pointing out while SSH is a wonderful thing,
for certain specific uses (logging in from an untrusted terminal being
one of them), there are better tools.

David

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