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RE: 'we should all be uncomfortable with the extent to which luck

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Roeland Meyer)
Wed Jul 25 11:49:07 2001

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From: Roeland Meyer <rmeyer@mhsc.com>
To: 'Mitch Halmu' <mitch@netside.net>,
	Roeland Meyer <rmeyer@mhsc.com>
Cc: 'k claffy' <kc@ipn.caida.org>, nanog@nanog.org, caida@caida.org
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 08:51:56 -0700
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> From: Mitch Halmu [mailto:mitch@netside.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 8:30 AM
> 
> On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, Roeland Meyer wrote:
> 
> > How many of us here run anything less than SSH and even 
> allow telnetd to
> > live on any of our hosts?> 
> 
> Those (few) providers offering shell accounts still do.

Someone once proved to me, definitvely, how easy it is to crack root from a
shell account. Especially one that is allowed to execute their own code.
That night, I killed all shell accounts of users that I didn't personally
know and trust. Those that were left were introduced to SSH. This was
five-years ago.

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