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ISPs with AS's WAS Re: How many ISPs are out there?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (up@3.am)
Tue Jul 24 11:26:33 2001

Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 11:25:50 -0400 (EDT)
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2001 Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:

> On Tue, 24 Jul 2001 10:40:50 EDT, up@3.am  said:
> >                         My understanding is that as long as you get a
> > block from former class C or "the swamp", you should be visible
> > everywhere.  We recently requested, and got a /21 from 65/8 from Sprint.
> > A phone call and some pleading got them to change that to 208.8.16.0/21
> 
> Having a prefix that happens to be visible from everywhere is different
> than having a prefix that belongs to an ASN.  Your mail was unclear as
> to whether your /21 was its own seperate ASN or not.

I didn't word that email well at all.  208.8.16.0/21 belongs to our  
AS19975

> I have to wonder why a phone call and pleading were needed to get
> it out of 65/8 - was your /21 being filtered or hidden in some way?

I pleaded to get it changed from 65/8 to 208/8.  I *assumed* that having a
/21 from 65/8 would get us filtered by Verio (at least), but that a /21
from 208/8 should not be filtered anywhere.

James Smallacombe		      PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor
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