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Re: whatever happened to RED? (was: Improving Robustness...)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Simon Leinen)
Fri Jul 13 10:12:48 2001

To: William Allen Simpson <wsimpson@greendragon.com>
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From: Simon Leinen <simon@limmat.switch.ch>
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Date: 13 Jul 2001 16:12:17 +0200
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>>>>> "was" == William Allen Simpson <wsimpson@greendragon.com> writes:
> Didn't we have a solution to this problem?  And the UDP flood from
> Real?  And a host of other problems with saturated links?

> My operational issue is: what is the status of RED?  Being small and
> only having cisco and *nix routers, I'd expect it was widely
> deployed.

RED alone doesn't help much against flooding attacks.  You'd need
something like "RED with penalty box" or (flow-based) WFQ, and those
are either in research status or have other fundamental problems.

Don't get me wrong, RED is extremely cool - buy only routers that
support this at line rate, and configure it on any interface where you
expect even a slight chance of congestion.
-- 
Simon.

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