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Re: Other flapping prefixes. Compare and contrast.

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Mon Sep 11 11:42:08 1995

Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 08:35:23 -0700
From: owen@DeLong.SJ.CA.US (Owen DeLong)
To: smd@icp.net, mn@ios.com
Cc: nanog@MERIT.EDU
Resent-From: nanog@MERIT.EDU


I disagree with your position completely Mike.  None of what is below
is what I would consider "bashing".  Instead, it is a straightforward
and honest display of what is breaking large parts of the Internet
with a request that it be solved.  I consider it highly constructive.
It is absolutely ridiculous that there are providers that still flap
routes, especially one the size of PSI, for dialup customers.

Owen

> Can we stop this bashing right here, Sean? I don't believe that this list 
> is the adequate forum four such childish behaviour. I have a collection 
> of your past emails and I am rather fed up withthis. 
> 
> Can Sean be removed from the list? These are not contributions in any 
> sense of constructivity at all.
> 
> Sprint can very well chose a different person to make their corporate 
> views known on an nanog scale.Mike
> 
> 
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> On Mon, 11 Sep 1995, Sean Doran wrote:
> 
> > 
> > There were several other providers who got notes from
> > me about prefixes that were flapping every several seconds
> > or thereabouts.   The tally so far:
> > 
> > Polite "we have a ticket open and will get someone to fix
> > things" from three providers (thanks ANS, BBN, EBONE).
> > 
> > A trio of no-answer-yets, one of which has since been
> > fixed, one of which will be fixed since I have the
> > advantage of sharing a room with the routing guru
> > of the NSP in question and the bigger advantage of
> > not needing nearly as much sleep. :-)
> > 
> > The third no-answer-yet is from a smaller provider in
> > Europe, and I expect they'll get back to me in their morning.
> > 
> > Finally, there was the previous reply.
> > 
> > 	Sean.
> > 
> > P.S.: Oh, I also have to thank Pushpendra Mohta of CERFNET
> > 	who replied to an earlier note personally with an
> > 	explanation of what was going on.
> > 
> > 
> 
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