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RE: DDoS attacks

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Roeland Meyer)
Thu Jul 12 00:00:35 2001

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From: Roeland Meyer <rmeyer@mhsc.com>
To: 'Rob Thomas' <robt@cymru.com>, nanog@merit.edu
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 21:00:36 -0700
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> From: Rob Thomas [mailto:robt@cymru.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 8:24 PM
> 
> ] I happen to agree, if only because; when script kiddies 
> don't have IRC to
> ] play with they'll start looking elsewhere. I'd rather them 
> have an IRC net
> ] to play with while they're being hunted. Wouldn't you?
> 
> Agreed.  Keep in mind that when the kiddies really want to 
> test something
> nasty, they simply build their own (hidden and secured) IRC servers in
> which to park the zombies.  So a paucity of IRC 
> servers/networks isn't an
> issue to them.
> 
> Eradicating IRC isn't the solution.  IRC is the "SOSUS net" 
> of DDoS.  It
> would be wise if everyone paid close attention to what is discovered
> therein.

Of course, it also wouldn't hurt if we actually STARTED a script-kiddie
hunt, while they're making themselves so visible/vulnerable, rather than
kvetching at the victim, neh?

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