[39412] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Cogent Communications Info
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Daniel Golding)
Thu Jul 5 22:21:00 2001
From: "Daniel Golding" <dan@netrail.net>
To: "Vincent J. Bono" <vbono@vinny.org>,
"David U." <davidu@everydns.net>
Cc: "Nanog List" <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 22:22:04 -0400
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The wierd thing here is that Williams doesn't have an overabundance of
peering either. They had been SBC's primary IP transit provider for their
DSL product, but rumor has it that SBC has selected other providers to
replace them. Perhaps Williams has massive transit contracts of their own,
and they are trying to cut their losses? Reselling transit for $50/meg is
better than not reselling it at all.
I doubt Cogent's long term plans are dependent on Williams' firesale transit
pricing.
- Daniel Golding
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of
> Vincent J. Bono
> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 10:03 PM
> To: David U.
> Cc: Nanog List
> Subject: Re: Cogent Communications Info
>
>
>
> Just to test them out we ordered their "private line" service (rather than
> the transit product) where it is $10/meg point to point, i.e.
> 100Mbps cross
> country is $1,000 per end per month. Its a tunneled IP product
> with an ATM
> infrastructure.
>
> They are already 90 days overdue and show no signs of delivery
> anytime soon.
>
> They are heavily involved with Williams for the ATM backbone and
> I know that
> Williams is selling IP transit to big telecom accounts for as little as
> $50/meg. Since they don't seem to have a lot of peering possibly they are
> filling in the gaps with Williams transit and coming up with a skewed cost
> model?
>
> -Vincent
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David U." <davidu@everydns.net>
> To: "Nanog List" <nanog@merit.edu>
> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 9:40 PM
> Subject: Cogent Communications Info
>
>
> >
> > I have been reading about Cogent Communications recently and
> was wondering
> how
> > they can possibly offer 100mbps for $3000 ($1000 if you are an end-user,
> not a
> > service provider). It just seems too good to be true and we
> know how that
> > goes...
> >
> > Does anyone on NANOG have experience with them?
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > For those who don't know: Cogent offers 100 mbps at $3000 to service
> provider
> > or 1000gbps for $20,000. http://www.cogentco.com has some info but not
> much.
> >
> > thanks,
> > -davidu
> >
>
