[39405] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: broadband clarification
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Larry Diffey)
Thu Jul 5 18:15:23 2001
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From: "Larry Diffey" <ldiffey@technologyforward.com>
To: <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 15:18:19 -0700
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It appears I was incorrect about cable modems. I humbly apologize to =
the group. I thought that cable modems were digital at least out to the =
street.
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From: Larry Diffey=20
To: nanog@merit.edu=20
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 2:34 PM
Subject: broadband clarification
Alright, for all of you who decided to lecture me on the definition of =
broadband and it's meaning in strict engineering terms, allow me to =
clarify (especially for the snotty ones).
First off, words can have more than one meaning and that meaning should =
be taken in context. For example; I'm sure that none of you really =
think that a cable modem is a modem since it doesn't do AD/DA conversion =
but we all understand that it's simply a device used to connect a =
customer to a provider. After all "cable modem" is nothing more than a =
marketing term so that customers have a rough understanding of what the =
device does (not that they always understand that either).
When I chose to use the term broadband as a reference point for my =
survey, I mistakenly thought that your brains would parse that out to =
mean "an minimum acceptable level of bandwidth for consumer internet =
traffic". If you consider that to be current DSL/Cable speeds fine. If =
you take that to mean some future technology using quantum mechanics =
fine.
So, if you're going to lecture me on the definition of bandwidth then =
please stop using the term modem unless you're talking about an actual =
modem device.
The question then remains: What (in your opinion) constitutes broadband =
according to the services that have been promised to consumers but not =
yet delivered?
Yes, I understand that it's not just speed, but take everything else =
into account when you consider the minimum speed.
Feel free to be immature enough to flame me for my lecture.
Larry Diffey
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It appears I was incorrect about cable=20
modems. I humbly apologize to the group. I thought that =
cable modems=20
were digital at least out to the street.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
title=3Dldiffey@technologyforward.com=20
href=3D"mailto:ldiffey@technologyforward.com">Larry Diffey</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dnanog@merit.edu=20
href=3D"mailto:nanog@merit.edu">nanog@merit.edu</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 05, 2001 2:34 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> broadband clarification</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Alright, for all of you who decided to =
lecture me=20
on the definition of broadband and it's meaning in strict engineering =
terms,=20
allow me to clarify (especially for the snotty ones).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>First off, words can have more than one =
meaning and=20
that meaning should be taken in context. For example; I'm sure =
that none=20
of you really think that a cable modem is a modem since it doesn't do =
AD/DA=20
conversion but we all understand that it's simply a device used to =
connect a=20
customer to a provider. After all "cable modem" is nothing more =
than a=20
marketing term so that customers have a rough understanding of what the =
device=20
does (not that they always understand that either).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>When I chose to use the term broadband =
as a=20
reference point for my survey, I mistakenly thought that your brains =
would parse=20
that out to mean "an minimum acceptable level of bandwidth for consumer =
internet=20
traffic". If you consider that to be current DSL/Cable speeds =
fine. =20
If you take that to mean some future technology using quantum mechanics=20
fine.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So, if you're going to lecture me on =
the definition=20
of bandwidth then please stop using the term modem unless you're talking =
about=20
an actual modem device.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The question then remains: <STRONG>What (in your opinion) =
constitutes=20
broadband according to the services that have been promised to consumers =
but not=20
yet delivered?</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Yes, I understand that it's not just =
speed, but=20
take everything else into account when you consider the minimum=20
speed.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Feel free to be immature enough to =
flame me for my=20
lecture.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Larry Diffey</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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