[39334] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Getting an AS and /18
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Bob K)
Mon Jul 2 19:59:54 2001
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 19:59:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: Bob K <melange@yip.org>
To: Daniel Golding <dan@netrail.net>
Cc: andy@ellifson.com, nanog@merit.edu
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So re-reading Andy's post, I think people have misread it - he doesn't
appear to be asking for help in circumventing ARIN's procedures, he wants
help in following it, if one notes the actual questions he asks:
> > Does ARIN require a ton of SWIPS be present for the customer before
> > they will issue address space?
> > Does anyone know of a person they can talk to at ARIN to help with
> > this process?
But that's just my take on it.
On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, Daniel Golding wrote:
>
> I suspect this is a troll. However, I'll take the bait...
>
> Why should this organization get any sort of special treatment? Because they
> have been too slack to properly SWIP their blocks? Because they don't feel
> like submitting the proper documentation?
>
> You posit that the customer genuinely needs the address space. How do we, as
> an Internet community discover that? The only way is documentation.
>
> I find it rather hard to believe that an organization without an AS,
> qualifies for a /18, based on the published criteria - they did take the
> time to read those, right?
>
> Andy, you request help to circumvent a process that is far from perfect, yet
> is our best hedge against the unscrupulous. I suppose the best advise for
> them is to hire a consultant who is fully conversant in the procedures for
> obtaining address spaces and an AS number. That's their best bet.
>
> - Daniel Golding
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of
> > Andy Ellifson
> > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 6:50 PM
> > To: nanog@merit.edu
> > Subject: Getting an AS and /18
> >
> >
> >
> > I have a customer that is a cable modem provider. They submitted the
> > form to request an AS and some address space. The response from ARIN
> > wanted a ton of documentation. I understand why ARIN requires all of
> > the documentation. Does ARIN require a ton of SWIPS be present for the
> > customer before they will issue address space? This customer genuinely
> > needs the address space but doesn't have the time to gather up all the
> > information that is 'required'. Does anyone know of a person they can
> > talk to at ARIN to help with this process?
> >
> > -Andy Ellifson
> >
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