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RE: GRC rides again...

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Roeland Meyer)
Mon Jul 2 10:11:36 2001

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From: Roeland Meyer <rmeyer@mhsc.com>
To: "'rdobbins@netmore.net'" <rdobbins@netmore.net>,
	Roeland Meyer <rmeyer@mhsc.com>
Cc: 'David Howe' <DaveHowe@gmx.co.uk>, nanog@merit.edu
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 07:15:08 -0700 
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Yes, but my first question was wrt QoS. Would it do any good?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roland Dobbins [mailto:rdobbins@netmore.net]
> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 7:12 AM
> To: Roeland Meyer
> Cc: 'David Howe'; nanog@merit.edu
> Subject: Re: GRC rides again...
> 
> 
> 
> Implementing fully-compliant sockets in XP is -not- a security issue.
> 
> There're LOTS of things wrong with the way Microsoft do 
> things, but this 
> simply isn't one of them.  It's just amazing to me how credulous the 
> public are when harangued by such an obvious snake-oil salesman.
> 
> Steve Gibson, a hero in his own mind.
> 
> Roeland Meyer wrote:
> 
> >>From: David Howe [mailto:DaveHowe@gmx.co.uk]
> >>Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 2:48 AM
> >>
> >>... With yet another "update" to the DDos pages.
> >>http://grc.com/dos/intro.htm
> >>and I quote:
> >>
> > 
> >>>Unfortunately, today we see only the operation of blind 
> >>>
> >>self-interest from
> >>
> >>>Microsoft and the Internet's ISP's
> >>>
> >>As I seem to recall several members of this list offered him 
> >>help (and were rebuffed) perhaps they
> >>would like to comment? He seems increasingly lost in
> >>a fantasy world where everyone is out to get him....
> >>
> > 
> > The question I have is, would QoS would do any good here?
> > 
> > Other then that, he seems to be on a rant here. As much as 
> I hate to say it,
> > I almost agree with MSFT here. That said, Novell stated, 
> decades ago, that
> > MSFT never could understand network security. At the time, 
> I agreed with
> > Novell. Current observation is, that MSFT has yet to learn. 
> Considering
> > MSFT's workstation market-share, that is a problem for all of us.
> > 
> 
> 
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> ------------------------------------------------------------
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> 

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