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Re: SBC forcing new contract on ISPs

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Derek Balling)
Mon Jun 25 15:04:31 2001

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Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 11:46:34 -0700
To: "Christopher A. Woodfield" <rekoil@semihuman.com>,
	Bruce Robertson <bruce@greatbasin.net>
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I can't speak for Bruce's situation, but in San Jose, if you're using 
a competitive ISP, (e.g., not the SBC/PBI inhouse ISP arm), you get 
two bills. a bill from your ISP for "internet access", and a fee 
rolled onto the bill of the POTS line the DSL is a "Service" on.

D


At 2:36 PM -0400 6/25/01, Christopher A. Woodfield wrote:
>Educate me: are you not at this time billing the customer for the
>local loop? Here in VZ territory, the cost of the local loop lease from VZ
>and the DSLAM access from Covad (in your case, SBC provides both of
>these, right?) are both rolled into the standard monthly fee from my ISP.
>Is this not how it's done in SBC land?
>
>-C
>
>>  opportunity to also sell other services over that DSL circuit, and we are
>  > also made responsible for billing the DSL circuit to the customer.  So in

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