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Re: Access to the Internic Blocked

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Vadim Antonov)
Mon Aug 26 00:11:53 1996

Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 20:57:09 -0700
From: Vadim Antonov <avg@quake.net>
To: dwm@ans.net
Cc: curtis@ans.net, nanog@merit.edu

Daniel W. McRobb <dwm@ans.net> wrote:

> Doing that at 10 kpps is not going to be a solution any time soon.

>You're kidding, right?  10kpps has been doable (and done) for years.
>Did you forget a zero or two?

Hm.  The existing boxes which can do 100kpps can't do accounting at that
speed.  Not in the real life.

(Where have you seen a 1Mpps box which actually _works_?)

>The vBNS folks are about to release an OC-3 header sniffer that runs on
>a Pentium box.  Rumor has it that it'll handle OC-12 as well.  There's a
>presentation of it on the USENIX agenda.

Sniffing and logging are two very different things.

> I would also wish you luck with logging SA/DA pairs at places like
> .ICP.NET. where source/destination matrix is about 1-2 millon
> entries long.

>1-2 million is not much.  Even in the NSFNET days, I worked w/
>5-million-cell net matrices.  All it takes is memory and some CPU.

1-2 _simultaneoulsy_, not over period of time.  The 1-hr matrix
would be two orders of magnitude bigger.

Anyway, it does not make any difference, as the box capable of
logging at some speed N is going to cost about the same as a
router of the same speed N (or more).  I'm not sure logging worth it.

>We're not sniffing a shared FDDI ring w/ these UNIX boxes.  They get
>data from the routers.

What kind of routers?  NSSes?  You can't get that for ciscos,
sorree...

--vadim

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