[38755] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: standards for giving out blocks of IP addresses
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rishi Singh)
Tue Jun 12 20:50:31 2001
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From: Rishi Singh <RSingh@Tradescape.com>
To: "'Martin, Christian'" <cmartin@gnilink.net>,
'Kevin Loch' <kloch@opnsys.com>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 20:49:53 -0400
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VERY true...
Many a times the closing during a contract will be the reminder to the
salesperson, "So, you know we still need those 4 /24s right, as we discussed
when we first met?"
Then a phone a call is made and some words exchanged and the answer is, "My
boss says he can do that for you, but he needs the contract back today to
reserve them."
:-).
-----Original Message-----
From: Martin, Christian [mailto:cmartin@gnilink.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 8:38 PM
To: 'Kevin Loch'
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: RE: standards for giving out blocks of IP addresses
> Of course bandwidth != subnet mask. He should give them
> whatever IP's
> they demonstrate a need for in the next three months. Determining and
> justifying that
> need has nothing to do with how over (or under) subscribed their
> bandwidth is.
Let us not forget what some salespersons will promise to potential large
bandwidth customers. An OC-3 POS customer, for example, can expect many
many /24s. One may say "They should go to ARIN", but alas, they would have
to pay another $2500 on top of the $1 million+ they are paying for transit.
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It is surprising how much a salesperson will "sell" to get the commission on
a 5 year OC-3 contract, forget about OC-12/48...
So, in some cases, like it or not, bandwidth sold is proportional to IP
addresses.
chris
>
> If they are in fact only selling dialup (not leased lines, not web
> hosting),
> you might ask how many pops(locations) they plan to have right away,
> modems/pop, space
> reserved for internal devices (email/corporate lan) and links. You
> could
> easially justify a couple of /24's with a couple locations
> and IP's for
> all the new PC's in the marketing dept.
>
> KL
>
