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RE: /24s run amuck again

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Richard A. Steenbergen)
Sat Jun 9 16:35:51 2001

Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 16:35:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Richard A. Steenbergen" <ras@e-gerbil.net>
To: John Starta <john@starta.org>
Cc: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>, nanog@merit.edu
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On Sat, 9 Jun 2001, John Starta wrote:

> Your customers are paying for Internet connectivity. If they're unable to 
> reach the sites they desire as a result of your intention actions 
> (filtering announcements), why should they continue to pay you?
> 
> While I fully support and expect route aggregation whenever possible, it is 
> unreasonable to believe that everything fits in nice pretty packages. If 
> you're unwilling to accept diverse /22 announcements without payment, why 
> should we not expect the same for the /24's you're announcing?

But in defense of Randy's "as long as you pay me" polcies, the worst I see
originated from Verio is:
  204.77.134.0/24 3967 2914
  204.77.141.0/24 3967 2914
  204.77.142.0/24 3967 2914
  204.77.145.0/24 3967 2914
  204.77.146.0/24 3967 2914
  204.77.148.0/23 3967 2914
  204.77.156.0/24 3967 2914
  204.77.159.0/24 3967 2914
  204.77.181.0/24 3967 2914

It appears that 204.77.128.0/17 belongs to Synergy Communications, who has
their own AS (3673) but isn't using it. Interestingly enough, synergy.net
appears to be selling bicycles not internet.

And the worst from one of their customers is:
  192.103.149.0/24 3967 2914 6993 6993 6993 6993 6993 6993
  192.103.151.0/24 3967 2914 6993 6993 6993 6993 6993 6993
  192.103.152.0/24 3967 2914 6993 6993 6993 6993 6993 6993
  192.103.154.0/24 3967 2914 6993 6993 6993 6993 6993 6993
  192.103.155.0/24 3967 2914 6993 6993 6993 6993 6993 6993
  192.103.160.0/23 3967 2914 6993 6993 6993 6993 6993 6993
  192.103.162.0/24 3967 2914 6993 6993 6993 6993 6993 6993
  192.103.175.0/24 3967 2914 6993 6993 6993 6993 6993 6993
  192.103.176.0/24 3967 2914 6993 6993 6993 6993 6993 6993
  192.103.179.0/24 3967 2914 6993 6993 6993 6993 6993 6993
  192.103.188.0/24 3967 2914 6993 6993 6993 6993 6993 6993
  192.103.190.0/23 3967 2914 6993 6993 6993 6993 6993 6993
  192.103.192.0/24 3967 2914 6993 6993 6993 6993 6993 6993
  192.103.194.0/23 3967 2914 6993 6993 6993 6993 6993 6993
  192.103.208.0/23 3967 2914 6993 6993 6993 6993 6993 6993
  192.103.210.0/24 3967 2914 6993 6993 6993 6993 6993 6993
  192.103.229.0/24 3967 2914 6993 6993 6993 6993 6993 6993
  192.103.230.0/23 3967 2914 6993 6993 6993 6993 6993 6993
  192.103.236.0/23 3967 2914 6993 6993 6993 6993 6993 6993

Far from being one of the worst offenders. I guess it goes to prove the
old saying, never blame on malice what you can blame on stupidity.

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Richard A Steenbergen <ras@e-gerbil.net>       http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras
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