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Re: Why so little traffic from C&W

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (George William Herbert)
Fri Jun 8 02:33:30 2001

Message-Id: <200106080647.XAA29852@gw.retro.com>
To: "J.D. Falk" <jdfalk@cybernothing.org>
Cc: gherbert@gw.retro.com, nanog@merit.edu
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 23:47:03 -0700
From: George William Herbert <gherbert@retro.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu



JD wrote:
>Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se> wrote: 
>> I believe the whole structure of tier1, tier2 etc is breaking down and
>> everybody is going after all customers, and that this will have
>> interesting implications in the future.
>
>	Breaking down?  It used to be that anyone connected directly
>	to an exchange point was tier one, and the tiers are pretty
>	obvious beyond that.  Now that everyone's at the exchanges,
>	"tier one" is simply a marketing term.

To "an" exchange point?

It certainly didn't start out that way; in the 93-94 timeframe it
was pretty clear tier 1's brought their bandwidth around the country
and connected wherever possible, not just at one point.

I have to agree that the "structure" is breaking down, if nothing
else because people don't agree with what the definitions are
(though, a coherent case can be made that we never did... 
like peering policies spinning in the wind, definitions have
changed a lot over the years).


-george william herbert
gherbert@retro.com


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