[38539] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: C&W/PSI restore connectivity (peering?) Re: C&W Peering
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Smith, Marcellus)
Wed Jun 6 19:52:59 2001
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From: "Smith, Marcellus" <msmith@aleron.com>
To: 'Sean Donelan' <sean@donelan.com>, nanog@merit.edu
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 19:45:28 -0400
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In my opinion, the individual "peering coordinator" will have less and less
control over Peering over time. So it doesn't matter how constant or
flexible their views are. The outgoing costs considerations will begin to
dictate more than any other factor what the "company's" views are on
Peering.
For example, working at a facilities based company would enable you to enjoy
certain luxuries that a non-facilities based company would not. Some ISP's
look at Peering and the costs associated with it (hardware and circuits) as
a cost of doing business, but the beancounters want to see direct revenue
tied to everything, of course.
When the "peering coordinator" can't show direct revenue from Peering,
whatever he or she thinks goes out the window, making their opinions or
views, irrelevant to their company. And this is the mistake that companies
will make. They don't realize the 3D effect of the economics, as any good
"peering coordinator" will and they will make "Peering" decisions only based
on the outgoing costs.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Sean Donelan [mailto:sean@donelan.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 10:14 PM
To: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: C&W/PSI restore connectivity (peering?) Re: C&W Peering
On Wed, 06 June 2001, shane wrote:
> Looks like the peering is back up as of 21:28:00 EDT.
Wow, less than a week. Not too bad as peering disputes go.
If you'd like to re-read older PSI peering dispute
A person from ANS: http://www.interesting-people.org/archive/0435.html
A person from PSI: http://www.interesting-people.org/archive/0436.html
I would be interested in hearing what folks who once worked as the
"peering coordinator" for a large ISP, and later worked as a smaller
ISP trying to negotiate from different sides of the table think. I
believe every major ISP has turned over their peering staff at least
once, and some multiple times.
Do the views hold constant no matter where they are, or are they
flexible depending whether they are currently working at the big
ISP or at the startup ISP?
