[38512] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: C&W Perring
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Moe Allen)
Wed Jun 6 14:39:58 2001
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From: "Moe Allen" <moe@vidnet.net>
To: "David Sinn" <dsinn@microsoft.com>
Cc: "Nanog" <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:39:03 -0500
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MessageAccording to the C&W engineer I spoke with, C&W stopped =
announcing its routes. So PSINET was unable to find the peering =
routers. (deaf, dumb and blind). A meeting was held last night between =
the two and a temporary agreement was reached. Part of this agreement =
was that all routes would be back in place by morning. Which they were. =
They agreed that over the next 60 days they would meet and try to work =
out an more lasting agreement (what ever that means) to prevent this =
from occurring again.
Now that is the official words. Here is my opinion. Customers like my =
company, after getting slapped in the face last night with that crappy =
e-mail, responded like I did. Either fix it or we would be order new =
T1's to replace C&W's. This is exactly what I told them. We are paying =
them good money to C&W and none of their customer base was even =
questioned how this would affect our local business. I must tell you I =
really pissed this morning when they called me. It must have done some =
good.
Respectfully,
Morris Allen
VidcomNet, Inc.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: David Sinn=20
To: Nanog=20
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 12:56 PM
Subject: RE: C&W Perring
So which side is doing the pre-pending?
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David=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Moe Allen [mailto:moe@vidnet.net]=20
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 10:33 AM
To: Nanog
Subject: C&W Perring
To all:
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I just got off the phone with Cable & Wireless. A 60 day =
continuation of peering with PSINET was reached last night. The peering =
is back up and we can now find PSINET DNS server again. More on this as =
I am made aware.
Respectfully,
Morris Allen
President
VidcomNet, Inc.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>According to the C&W engineer I =
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was held=20
last night between the two and a temporary agreement was reached. =
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morning. =20
Which they were. They agreed that over the next 60 days they would =
meet=20
and try to work out an more lasting agreement (what ever that means) to =
prevent=20
this from occurring again.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Now that is the official words. =
Here is my=20
opinion. Customers like my company, after getting slapped in the =
face last=20
night with that crappy e-mail, responded like I did. Either fix it =
or we=20
would be order new T1's to replace C&W's. This is exactly what =
I told=20
them. We are paying them good money to C&W and none of =
their=20
customer base was even questioned how this would affect our local=20
business. I must tell you I really pissed this morning when they =
called=20
me. It must have done some good.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Respectfully,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Morris Allen</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>VidcomNet, Inc.</FONT></DIV>
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<P><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>David </FONT></P>
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align=3Dleft><FONT=20
face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
Moe Allen=20
[mailto:moe@vidnet.net] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 06, 2001 =
10:33=20
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Nanog<BR><B>Subject:</B> C&W=20
Perring<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>To all:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> I just got off =
the phone=20
with Cable & Wireless. A 60 day continuation of peering =
with=20
PSINET was reached last night. The peering is back up and we =
can now=20
find PSINET DNS server again. More on this as I am made=20
aware.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Respectfully,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Morris Allen</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>President</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>VidcomNet, Inc.</FONT></DIV>
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