[38161] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: QOS or more bandwidth
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Kavi, Prabhu)
Tue May 29 15:22:28 2001
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From: "Kavi, Prabhu" <prabhu_kavi@tenornetworks.com>
To: "'smd@clock.org'" <smd@clock.org>, nanog@merit.edu, rja@inet.org
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 15:11:57 -0400
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: smd@clock.org [mailto:smd@clock.org]
> |Prabhu Kavi writes:
> | Someone asked earlier in this thread if it was cheaper to add
> | capacity or pay for the bright engineers to make TE or QoS work.
> | For large carriers, the right answer is often to pay for the
> | bright engineers.
> 
> Admittedly I have strong biases, but the engineers that I think
> are bright will tell large carriers that the right answer is to
> spend money on more capacity.
> 
Sounds like we know different sets of bright engineers.  My biases
are that I worked for a Layer 2 switch vendor at the time, and
our IP customers were primarily large ISPs.
> What "we" believed in 1995-1997 about ATM cell tax and the like
> is no longer valid.  Neither is what "they" believed about traffic 
> management.
ATM is a tool. Some carriers used this tool in 95-97 for line-rate
OC-12 forwarding and TE.  Line-rate forwarding at OC-48+ rates
is no longer an issue, and TE is available with MPLS, so ATM is 
not a very useful for IP traffic these days.  However, TE is 
still a necessary tool for some carriers because "they" know it 
makes better financial sense for them than adding bandwidth.  Your 
mileage may vary.
Prabhu
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