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Re: Stealth Blocking

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mitch Halmu)
Thu May 24 20:33:43 2001

Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 17:47:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mitch Halmu <mitch@netside.net>
To: Matt Cramer <mscramer@armstrong.com>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
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On Thu, 24 May 2001, Matt Cramer wrote:

> http://spam.abuse.net/spam/tools/smPbS.html
> 
> POP3 before SMTP.  Works for any MUA that supports POP3, and the only
> impact to the user experience is that the user needs to check her mail
> before she sends mail (which most do anyway).
> 
> Now, please try this, close your relay, and cease this off-topic whining
> to this list.

I will give you a solid reason why we won't try this, quoting research 
with POP-before-SMTP conducted by the founder of MAPS TSI, Chip Rosenthal 
http://users.laserlink.net/~chip/relay-pres-9910/

You don't have to believe me that our clients will not accept that, take
his words instead:

"Our users hated it - particularly those using MS Outlook"

No need to describe what happens when your clients hate your service...

--Mitch
NetSide


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