[37730] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Stealth Blocking
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Wed May 23 15:27:47 2001
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To: Robert Sharp <rsharp@appliedtheory.com>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 23 May 2001 12:57:24 EDT."
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From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 13:42:42 -0400
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On Wed, 23 May 2001 12:57:24 EDT, Robert Sharp said:
> I like how MAPS is allowed to black hole your machines and their traffic. But if
> you deny them access to your network resource as they are you are automatically
> assumed a spammer. Wait you don't believe the same things we do, well you must
> be the enemy.
I like how people like to rant without correlation to reality. MAPS doesn't
blackhole your machines. *I* blackhole your machines, based on *MY* decision
that if you're listed in MAPS, you're somebody I don't want to talk to.
Until you get that little detail straight, all your pissing and moaning
about MAPS is just that - pissing and moaning. You can complain to MAPS
about being listed in their database, or you can complain to me about my
black holing your traffic because I found you listed in MAPS. But you can't
complain about MAPS black holing you because they don't.
Using a clue for more than 20 seconds would show that MAPS *CANT* blackhole
your traffic themselves - if they did, HOW WOULD THEY TEST THAT YOU"D CLOSED
AN OPEN RELAY?
--
Valdis Kletnieks
Operating Systems Analyst
Virginia Tech
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