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Re: Stability of the Internet?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com)
Wed May 23 14:21:57 2001

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To: rmeyer@mhsc.com (Roeland Meyer)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 17:57:40 +0000 (UCT)
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> > > business and in into the PSO business it is now chartered for.
> > 
> > 	True. And it should also get out of the operations biz,
> > 	but that is another kettle of fish.
> 
> The problem there is that there is no place for operations discussions,
> AFAICT. This may be an oversight on part of the ICANN conceptual framework.
> Most of the rest of us assumed (yeah, I know) that the IETF would handle
> that. Agreed, this may be in error. But, it is an error without a solution. 

	Protocols are not Operations.
	Operations fourms exist independent of IETF.
	(see the various *NOG's, EOF-LIST, APOP, et.al.)
	Protocol developers & Policy makers should listen
	to Operators.

	To subsume operations in the IETF is just as bad as 
	subsuming policy in the IETF. 


--bill



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