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Re: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Christopher A. Woodfield)
Mon May 14 16:14:11 2001

Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 11:39:22 -0400
To: John Murphy <nanog@mail.murfnet.com>
Cc: Roeland Meyer <rmeyer@mhsc.com>,
	"nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
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In-Reply-To: <41200151143726903@murfnet.com>; from nanog@mail.murfnet.com on Sun, May 13, 2001 at 10:07:26PM -0500
From: "Christopher A. Woodfield" <rekoil@semihuman.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


Yes, ARIN won't _prevent_ you from SWIPping /29s and /30s, but ARIN _requires_
you to SWIP any suballocation larger than a /28, and won't issue 
additional blocks to you if your current blocks aren't properly SWIPped.

-C

On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 10:07:26PM -0500, John Murphy wrote:
> 
> I'm sorry Roeland, but your statement about SWIP'ing anything less than a
> /24 is just inaccurate.  We SWIP /29s and /30s daily, for both our Frame
> and our DSL customers.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----------------------Original Message-----------------------
> From:  Roeland Meyer
> To:  nanog@nanog.org
> Date:  5/13/01  4:21 PM
> Subject:  RE: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS
> 
> 
> I've had similar problem at SpeakEasy. They still don't have a reverse-DNS
> clue.
> 
> http://www.mhsc.com/recovery.htm
> 
> None of the DSL ISPs can do larger than /27 anymore, even when they're
> ILECs. Anything less than a /24 can't be SWIP'd and if you don't control
> your in-addr.arpa entries you don't control your domain and have no
> security.
> 
> 
> 
> > From: John Palmer (NANOG Acct) [mailto:nanog@adns.net]
> > Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2001 1:40 PM
> 
> > <FLAME ON>
> 
> > PSINet dumped all of their DSL customers onto CAIS. Covad is 
> > the backhaul
> > provider for them both. Need I say more?
> > 
> > Bottom line, I dont know how many thousands of people were 
> > without service
> > for more than a day because the whole transfer was botched.
> > 
> > We have a situation where we had a DSL connection from PSI 
> > and were using
> > our own  IP addresses. Problem is that no one changed the
> > routing tables and the packets dead-ended at PSI.
> > 
> > Getting CAIS to fix this problem has been a nightmare. At 
> > first, PSI didnt
> > stop announcing the routes and now that they have, it seems that
> > CAIS will not announce the routes till Monday becuase "no one 
> > at our NOC
> > knows how to do this and the one guy (ONE GUY IN THE WHOLE
> > COMPANY - AND THEY ARE A NATIONWIDE PROVIDER????) who knows 
> > how doesn't work
> > weekends."
> 
> > <flame off - sorry to the list for being so loud>
> 
> 
> 
> 

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