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Re: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Adam McKenna)
Mon May 14 04:26:53 2001

Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 01:23:03 -0700
From: Adam McKenna <adam@flounder.net>
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On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 12:42:54AM -0700, Roeland Meyer wrote:
> > > Oracle (try and build a DB without reverse working right. 
> > Net8 stops you
> > > dead in your tracks).
> > 
> > Sorry, but this is just 100% wrong.  I've set up Oracle on 
> > many boxes and you
> > don't need any DNS at all to set up an oracle DB.  In fact, I 
> > tell our DBA's
> > to use IP addresses in their TNSNAMES.ORA files because I 
> > don't want the DB
> > depending on DNS.
> 
> Let's see, I don't want to make my DBs dependent on DNS, so I use IP addrs.
> Yet, I can't depend on IP addrs because my upstream might have to be
> changed... damn, I shouldn't have depended on my scumbag DSL upstream, eh?

I believe we've been through this discussion before.

> Gee, maybe I should have had a names based system after all? Either way, I
> wind up having to rebuild Oracle boxen and application servers, every time
> somebody farts. Just what in blue hell are we supposed to do?

Maybe you should get a clue, or hire someone who has one.

> BTW, the last I checked SSL certs are usually names based. Pretty slack
> security, eh?

Yes.  See http://cr.yp.to/djbdns/bugtraq/19991114052453-12962-qmail@cr-yp-to
and http://cr.yp.to/djbdns/forgery.html

--Adam


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