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People who purchase unproven technologies to support their Business, and whine about it. RE: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joe Marr)
Sun May 13 21:38:07 2001

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From: "Joe Marr" <jmarr@twmaine.com>
To: "'John Palmer (NANOG Acct)'" <nanog@adns.net>
Cc: <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 21:31:10 -0400
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Why would anyone purchase dsl to run their business on. Let me guess, the
price was right.


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of
Alex Rubenstein
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2001 9:03 PM
To: John Palmer (NANOG Acct)
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS



Welp, you are the one who picked xDSL for your business...



On Sun, 13 May 2001, John Palmer (NANOG Acct) wrote:

>
> <FLAME ON>
>
> It has been a trying time at CAIS in the last few days, I'm sure.
>
> PSINet dumped all of their DSL customers onto CAIS. Covad is the backhaul
> provider for them both. Need I say more?
>
> Bottom line, I dont know how many thousands of people were without service
> for more than a day because the whole transfer was botched.
>
> We have a situation where we had a DSL connection from PSI and were using
> our own  IP addresses. Problem is that no one changed the
> routing tables and the packets dead-ended at PSI.
>
> Getting CAIS to fix this problem has been a nightmare. At first, PSI didnt
> stop announcing the routes and now that they have, it seems that
> CAIS will not announce the routes till Monday becuase "no one at our NOC
> knows how to do this and the one guy (ONE GUY IN THE WHOLE
> COMPANY - AND THEY ARE A NATIONWIDE PROVIDER????) who knows how doesn't
work
> weekends."
>
> Bottom line from CAIS:" S***W the customers, we dont work weekends. We
don't
> care that your entire business has been dead in the water since
> Wednesday, you can go to H**L, we'll get to it Monday, if we feel like
it."
>
> Our lawyers are looking at what actions we can take against them. It may
be
> trickey, but we will try.
>
> Needless to say, we will be moving our connection. I have some choice
words
> for them when they send us our first monthly bill, which I'm certain, they
> will do on weekends just fine.
>
> IF SOMEONE IS THERE AT CAIS - GET OFF OF YOUR LAZY A** AND PUT THOSE
> ANNOUNCEMENTS INTO YOUR BGP4
> TABLES TODAY (NOT MONDAY, NOT LATER IN THE WEEK)- THERE ARE ABOUT 6 OF
YOUR
> CUSTOMERS (NOT JUST US)
> WHO ARE DEAD IN THE WATER BECAUSE YOU ARE TOO LAZY TO DO A 20 SECOND JOB.
>
> <flame off - sorry to the list for being so loud>
> John
>
>
>
>
>
>




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