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Re: ISP Filter Policies--Effect is what?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Fraizer)
Tue May 8 17:52:13 2001

Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 16:27:25 -0400 (EDT)
From: John Fraizer <nanog@Overkill.EnterZone.Net>
To: Christian Kratzer <ck@toplink.net>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
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Christian,

You can be damned skippy that if we had a legacy B, I wouldn't be
returning it any time soon.  It's the part about NOT paying arin fees that
makes it most attractive.  If ARIN had a policy like "If you return your
legacy B and only need a /19, /18, 17, we'll simply trade -- no fees -- no
harm -- no foul" I think that more people would be returning unused
address space.  As it stands, there is really no tangible incentive and
VERY tangible penalties for doing so.


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John Fraizer
EnterZone, Inc




On Tue, 8 May 2001, Christian Kratzer wrote:

> > 
> > Stephen, you neglected to look at the big picture.  The "organization" has
> > the /16 but has sites spread out all over the planet and has assigned
> > /24's to them.  Additionally, they connect into the global net via diverse
> > providers.
> 
> why do they have a /16 then ???
> 
> As good net citicens they should get their /whatever they need at each
> location from their respective providers.
> 
> If they can't even afford to buy a decent backbone to connect their
> sites they have no need whatsoever for their own /16.
> 
> Please rtfm on rf1918 addressing for internal use
> 
> People like that are polluting the global routing tables with unnecessar
> yannouncements....
> 
> Greetings
> Christian
> 
> -- 
> TopLink Internet Services GmbH			ck@171.2.195.in-addr.arpa
> Christian Kratzer				http://www.toplink.net/
> Phone: 	+49 7032 2701-0
> Fax: 	+49 7032 2701-19	FreeBSD spoken here!
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