[3702] in North American Network Operators' Group
Customer AS
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Tim Crowell)
Thu Aug 15 14:55:10 1996
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 14:30:32 -0500
From: Tim Crowell <tcrowell@gte.net>
To: nanog@merit.edu
Cc: tcrowell@mail.gte.net
Howdy folks,
I would like to pose a question to the group about the best way
to implement the following;
GTE has a customer who is a content provider that we have
allocated a class C out of our CIDR block.
They have subsequently also ordered a second transit service
from ISP XYZ.
Our assumptions are:
1. Customer will obtain an AS number to do BGP with both GTE and
XYZ.
2. BGP will be established with both ISPs
3. GTE will announce the class 'C' as both a part of our
aggregate CIDR block and as a specific /24.
4. XYZ will announce the class 'C' as a /24 only.
5. Both GTE and XYZ will supply a default route.
Explanation/Questions;
1. Does this AS number have to be an officially registered AS or
can it be a reserved number? The thought is that the Class 'C'
will be announced by both ISPs and strip the customers AS. The
AS would only be used to connect between ISPs.
It seems extremely wasteful for every little company that wishes
a dual homed network would have to get a registered AS.
2. We first had major heartburn with carving the 'C' out because
we just couldn't see having to add 2 additional announcements to
the internet routing tables but we have come to the conclusion
that there is no other way to do it. We assume that we have to
announce the /24 in addition to our aggregate otherwise XYZ's
more specific announcement of our network would route all
traffic through them from the internet. It just seems that if
there were a large number of these multi-homed Class 'C's that
the internet routing table would be flooded. (Maybe thats a
part of the problem.
3. As a followup, what would you do if a subnetted class 'C'
customer who only requires a dozen or so addresses but orders
connections to two ISP's. Do you burn a whole Class 'C' ????
4. Is there anyway to accomplish what the customer wants that we
haven't considered.
5. I understand that we will have to submit the Class C to RADB
and create a "hole" in our aggregate to effectively represent
the network topology.
Thanks for any assistance,
PS. If i'm just being stupid about this feel free to say so. I
don't pout too long.
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Tim Crowell - GTE Intelligent Network Services
tcrowell@gte.net Voice: 214.751.3881