[36486] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: BGP Economics ?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Hank Nussbacher)
Mon Apr 9 05:04:41 2001
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Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 10:58:44 +0200
To: Geoff Huston <gih@telstra.net>, tme@21rst-century.com
From: Hank Nussbacher <hank@att.net.il>
Cc: Nanog mailing list <nanog@merit.edu>
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At 09:08 08/04/01 +1000, Geoff Huston wrote:
>So, if there is a belief that BGP table growth has slowed down in the
>first three months of this year due to social pressure, I do not support
>such a view even though the AS1221 data appears to indicate this. Its just
>local issues. The AS286 view supports the view that the underlying growth
>drivers are as strong as ever and the various efforts of nag mail of
>network operators has been largely (and predictably) ineffectual.
I decided to track how well my emails are doing. I have contacted about 25
ASNs so far based on Tony's report over ther past 3 months:
AS Nets then Nets now Net gain/loss
AS1221 1652 1594 -58
AS701 1581 1469 -112
AS11371 324 74 -250
AS4151 277 242 -35
AS3549 432 149 -283
AS271 280 73 -207
AS7545 196 138 -58
AS9269 162 113 -49
AS8006 146 19 -127
AS6429 218 212 -6
AS6595 163 163 0
AS13999 109 87 -22
AS4293 384 372 -12
AS8013 330 565 +235
AS4755 213 204 -9
AS1942 136 55 -81
AS1727 176 14 -162
AS9498 87 80 -7
AS6499 170 39 -131
AS5106 101 101 0
AS11170 64 28 -36
AS16758 63 63 0
AS3464 153 123 -30
AS3749 120 121 +1
AS6413 67 67 0
Withdrawn nets: 1675, added nets: 236, net reduction: 1409 nets. Now I
guess some of these would have reduced their routing announcements in any
event. Is this a scientific study? No. Does it show that perhaps the
routing table growth can be flattened via contacting ASN admins? I believe
the answer is yes.
-Hank
PS I have contacted AS8013 (PSA Canada) on March 6 (swip@PSI.CA,
noc@psi.ca). No response and only a large growth over the past month. If
anyone has better contact info than what is listed in ARIN and RADB, please
feel free to let me know.
>At 4/8/01 08:16 AM, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
>>Dear Geoff;
>>
>> I just noticed the remarkable flattening in the recent growth of the
>> BGP table
>>in your BGP graphs at :
>>http://www.telstra.net/ops/bgp/index.html
>>
>>It didn't even seem this striking at Minneapolis.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>> Marshall Eubanks
>>
>>
>> Multicast Technologies, Inc.
>> 10301 Democracy Lane, Suite 410
>> Fairfax, Virginia 22030
>> Phone : 703-293-9624 Fax : 703-293-9609
>> e-mail : tme@on-the-i.com http://www.on-the-i.com
>>
>> Test your network for multicast : http://www.multicasttech.com/mt/
>
