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RE: dsl providers that will route /24

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Greg A. Woods)
Fri Mar 30 02:12:29 2001

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Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 01:56:36 -0500 (EST)
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[ On Thursday, March 29, 2001 at 19:55:05 (-0800), David Schwartz wrote: ]
> Subject: RE: dsl providers that will route /24
>
> 
> 	That definition, if you really mean it, would make nearly every packet on
> the Internet spoofed. Sooner or later, pretty much every packet winds up
> coming into a router with a source not assigned to the customer on the other
> end of that link.

think edge man, EDGE!

> 	I prefer a much more useful definition of "spoofed". A packet is said to be
> spoofed if it is introduced onto the Internet and originated on a machine
> whose administration has not been assigned that IP address for use on the
> Internet.

And that's different from my definition, how?  You say "machine", I say
"link".  Which part of that picture does the average ISP have control
over?

> 	I'd love to hear your explanation of why a unidirectional VPN is a
> configuration error.

Your VPN is tunnelled and encrypted, no?

(BTW, "unidirectional VPN" is an oxymoron -- a net does not go one way)

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