[36143] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Microwave...
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Paul Lantinga)
Tue Mar 27 22:34:17 2001
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From: Paul Lantinga <prl@q9.com>
To: NANOG <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 22:28:46 -0500
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I recall that when I was working in Bangalore, India, another multinational
company (I think it was Siemens but I can't recall definitively) had to
poison the vultures that consistently perched on their microwave dish to get
reliable point to point. Given the complete non-regulation of spectrum out
there, at least once we had another provider clash with our spectrum[1],
forcing us to flip the dips until we found a clear one. However, when it
worked, it was incredibly solid.
Chocolate bars in India were usually melted already when you bought them.
;)
[1] Sometimes they would clash physically with us when they mounted extra
dishes on the tower in the downtown location - as in, some guy standing on
our dish to mount his.
--
Paul LANtinga
Q9 Networks, Inc.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Fraizer [mailto:nanog@Overkill.EnterZone.Net]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 9:21 PM
> To: Dee McKinney
> Cc: NANOG
> Subject: RE: Microwave...
>
>
>
>
> We've got a customer on a DS3 microwave shot. It's been more reliable
> than their copper DS1 backup and has the added benefit of
> being able to
> melt hershey bars in nothing flat! (Old MCCES@MCAGCC29 joke)
>
>
> ---
> John Fraizer
> EnterZone, Inc
>
> On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, Dee McKinney wrote:
>
> >
> > If it's a commercial carrier grade shot, and it's been
> engineered correctly,
> > and, and, and......
> > It should work fine as I have service on microwave that
> operates as good as
> > our fiber.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rodney Joffe [mailto:rjoffe@centergate.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 3:16 PM
> > To: NANOG
> > Subject: Microwave...
> >
> >
> >
> > I' be interested in hearing about any operational
> experience the users
> > on this list have had, such as issues and challenges with routing,
> > reliability, etc., with the use of Microwave at DS3 or
> greater level....
> >
> > --
> >
>
>
>
>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I recall that when I was working in Bangalore, India, =
another multinational company (I think it was Siemens but I can't =
recall definitively) had to poison the vultures that consistently =
perched on their microwave dish to get reliable point to point. =
Given the complete non-regulation of spectrum out there, at least once =
we had another provider clash with our spectrum[1], forcing us to flip =
the dips until we found a clear one. However, when it worked, it =
was incredibly solid.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Chocolate bars in India were usually melted already =
when you bought them. ;)</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>[1] Sometimes they would clash physically with us =
when they mounted extra dishes on the tower in the downtown location - =
as in, some guy standing on our dish to mount his.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>--</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Paul LANtinga</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Q9 Networks, Inc.</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>> -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> From: John Fraizer [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:nanog@Overkill.EnterZone.Net">mailto:nanog@Overkill.Enter=
Zone.Net</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 9:21 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> To: Dee McKinney</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Cc: NANOG</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Subject: RE: Microwave...</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> We've got a customer on a DS3 microwave =
shot. It's been more reliable</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> than their copper DS1 backup and has the added =
benefit of </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> being able to</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> melt hershey bars in nothing flat! (Old =
MCCES@MCAGCC29 joke)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> ---</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> John Fraizer</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> EnterZone, Inc</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, Dee McKinney wrote:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > If it's a commercial carrier grade shot, =
and it's been </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> engineered correctly,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > and, and, and......</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > It should work fine as I have service on =
microwave that </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> operates as good as</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > our fiber.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > From: Rodney Joffe [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:rjoffe@centergate.com">mailto:rjoffe@centergate.com</A>]<=
/FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 3:16 =
PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > To: NANOG</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > Subject: Microwave...</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > I' be interested in hearing about any =
operational </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> experience the users</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > on this list have had, such as issues and =
challenges with routing,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > reliability, etc., with the use of =
Microwave at DS3 or </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> greater level....</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > -- </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
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