[35679] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Statements against new.net?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Adrian Chadd)
Wed Mar 14 16:23:27 2001
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 03:27:59 +0800
From: Adrian Chadd <adrian@creative.net.au>
To: nanog@merit.edu
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In-Reply-To: <F062E72E4BA2D4119F1700B0D03D205F3B85@mail.tonbu.com>; from mbutler@tonbu.com on Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 11:08:48AM -0800
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On Wed, Mar 14, 2001, Mathew Butler wrote:
> Adrian: The key word is "cooperating". New.net (and its brethren that are
> being born in technology incubators as we speak) are not "cooperating",
> they're intentionally "culture-jamming" for their own gain.
Strange .. three replies, three mis-interpratations from what
I meant. Ok, lets try to restate and clarify what I was trying
to say.
> Hrm. Somewhere along the line I remember the Internet being defined
> as a bunch of networks cooperating in order to exchange information.
>
> When did that change? :-)
I'm not referring to us cooperating with new.net . Thats so the
opposite scale of what I meant.
> I'll be happy when more companies start to see that they canactually
> make money by fostering internet growth rather than making money by
> abusing internet growth.
.. and new.net aren't fostering internet growth, are they? :)
When I said "a bunch of networks cooperating to exchange information"
this kind of includes having a consistent view of naming, a
unique view of address ranges and a standard set of protocols
between networks.
Now, when did *that* change?
Adrian, noting that he's a problem solver, not an english major..
--
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<adrian@creative.net.au> from half way around the world should be viewed
as an accident and not a right."
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