[35656] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: new.net
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Patrick Greenwell)
Wed Mar 14 11:33:35 2001
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From: "Patrick Greenwell" <greenwell_is_a@corporatedirtbag.com>
To: nanog@merit.edu
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 10:26:47 -0600
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Amen Brother!
You would think, with all of us being network operators, or at least
claiming to be as such, that we would work on ways to *reduce* the
brokenness of the modern-day Internet instead of reducing more brokenness
to it. Do you guys *really* like to work that hard? Don't we have enough
things to fix?
New.net must die!!!
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Original Message
From: "Stephen Kowalchuk"<skowalchuk@diamonex.com>
Subject: Re: new.net
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 11:14:30 -0500
>
>Sounds to me like at its core new.net is taking advantage of the obvious
>frustration that some of us feel with the techno-political "establishment",
>using the discontent as a springboard to an eventual hijack of the root
zone. I
>don't think they have any intention of seeing themselves as an alternate.
It
>seems the ticket is to muddle the issues by labeling every argument for
one root
>"political", thus "unsavory" and offensive to many folks' more-egalitarian
>vision of the Internet.
>
>new.net offers "freedom from oppression", but in its own right is nothing
but an
>old spin on an old play. Create enough FUD about the establishment, then
get a
>few partners to commit to the "new.net" namespace, and if you have enough
>subscribers you can negotiate with ICANN.
>
>It seems new.net is taking lessons from Microsoft:
> - berate the common standards
> - create lots of dust
> - rape the standards of their essence
> - create exclusivity with proprietary extensions to the standards
> - appeal to the lowest common denominators of human expression (in this
> case, .xxx says it all)
> - partner with like-minded souls seeing the same pot of gold at the end
> - fight like hell to get a critical mass of subscribers to the idea
> (through any means possible)
> - negotiate the altered standards back into the mainstream
>
>Why do this? Money. Position. Microsoft is an excellent model for
building a
>profitable business.
>
>Only one problem. Rape the DNS, and the whole house comes down. You
might as
>well be running IRC.
>
>
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>Stephen Kowalchuk skowalchuk@diamonex.com
>Diamonex, Incorporated
>
>...learning cannot be controlled; it is out of control by design. Learning
>emerges spontaneously, it proceeds in an individualistic and unpredictable
>way, and it achieves its goal in its own good time. Once triggered, [it]
>will not stop--unless it is hijacked by conditioning. -- Roger Fouts
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