[3533] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: sell shell accounts?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Whipple)
Fri Jul 19 22:05:07 1996
From: David Whipple <dwhipple@microsoft.com>
To: "'freedman@netaxs.com'" <freedman@netaxs.com>,
"'Karl Denninger, MCSNet'" <karl@mcs.com>
Cc: "'vansax@atmnet.net'" <vansax@atmnet.net>,
"'richards@netrex.com'"
<richards@netrex.com>,
"'agislist@interstice.com'"
<agislist@interstice.com>,
"'nanog@merit.edu'" <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 17:28:43 -0700
What BGP issues are you talking about? As I understand it, The Netstar
gigarouter simply runs gated (sort of). So you have the standard issues
beween gated
and Cisco, but that's it.
Thanks.
David Whipple.
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>From: Karl Denninger, MCSNet[SMTP:karl@mcs.com]
>Sent: Friday, July 19, 1996 2:34 PM
>To: freedman@netaxs.com
>Cc: vansax@atmnet.net; richards@netrex.com; agislist@interstice.com;
>nanog@merit.edu
>Subject: Re: sell shell accounts?
>
>> Nope, remember - there is no magic. Any mesh of PVCs that one makes
>> over a switched network must reflect the toplogy of that network, and
>> one can set up a matching set of active routing sessions and route
>> weights which will cause traffic to flow the same way.
>>
>> Yes, the switches are a bit faster and have less to do. Data moves through
>> them in a few ms less per point. But as you said (and as I said in our
>> discussion in NYC), relative to any distance, the speed of light guarantees
>> that you won't notice the difference.
>>
>> The question is: Will there be routers available that can make IP
>> routing decisions based on 40-60kroutes and move 2-3 OC3s worth of
>> bidirectional traffic? The building of the configs to have a routed
>> network work the same as a switched ATM one can be automated, but it's
>> true that it *can be* easier to see what's going on in a large-scale
>> switched network.
>>
>> Avi
>
>Uh, yes. Like today.
>
>See NetStar (recently acquired by ASCEND).
>
>Their hardware does nothing *slower* than DS-3 right now, and updates the
>route forwarding table 20x/second. :-)
>
>This thing is a monster, and will make the so-called "state of the art"
>7513s look like dogmeat when in full production (presuming the BGP issues
>get completely resolved).
>
>Coming soon to a network near you.
>
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