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Re: Next NANOG

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Alex)
Wed Feb 28 19:27:21 2001

Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 18:43:09 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
From: Alex <alex@nac.net>
To: Joel Jaeggli <joelja@darkwing.uoregon.edu>
Cc: Joe Abley <jabley@automagic.org>,
	"Lucy E. Lynch" <llynch@darkwing.uoregon.edu>,
	Bora Akyol <akyol@akyol.org>, nanog@nanog.org
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the more access points, the more aggregate bandwidth you will get on the
802.11 cloud...



On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Joel Jaeggli wrote:

> Merit actually has enough access points (it really only takes 4-6 of
> them... it's more of a user mindshare issue... hence the continuing
> availability of laptop drops... note however that there are fewer at the
> recent meeting (ie. we had almost 300 for one room at nanog 17).
> 
> the cisco folks used about 24 access points(overkill) for the ietf in
> sandiego that was enough to blanket the conference center and the hotel
> below the 3rd floor...
> 
> joelja
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Alex wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > I'd rather see NANOG/MERIT invest in like 15 or 20 base stations, rather
> > than wasting the time/money on the cat5 cable and switches -- etc.
> >
> > A wireless card costs all of $200 these days... everyone could just get
> > one.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Joe Abley wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 08:23:19AM -0800, Lucy E. Lynch wrote:
> > > > > Our big costs were US West curcuits into the hotel (6xT1 - we could have
> > > > > gotten away with 4xT1) and cable - we had lenghts cut to fit the table
> > > > > layout in the ballroom. We had switches & such on hand, and we "borrowed"
> > > > > terminal room machines from one of the student labs -
> > > >
> > > > If these costs were negligible, how much would it have cost?
> > > >
> > > > (assuming, for example, an 802.11b shot from a hotel to an already-
> > > > connected nearby building, donated transit,
> > >
> > > we actually tried to do a wireless run as a backup plan, but couldn't find
> > > an open conduit, and the hotel balked at the thought of our wiring guys
> > > coring 11 floors in order to get to the roof...
> > >
> > > I don't think nanog is quite ready to go wireless only in the meeting room
> > > although cutting down on the wired infrastructure deployed is something
> > > that's been worked on...
> > >
> > > > doing wireless-only in the
> > > > conference and having some friendly vendor loan the machines for the
> > > > terminal room).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Joe
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
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> > > Joel Jaeggli				       joelja@darkwing.uoregon.edu
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> > > It is clear that the arm of criticism cannot replace the criticism of
> > > arms.  Karl Marx -- Introduction to the critique of Hegel's Philosophy of
> > > the right, 1843.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> 
> -- 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Joel Jaeggli				       joelja@darkwing.uoregon.edu
> Academic User Services			     consult@gladstone.uoregon.edu
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> It is clear that the arm of criticism cannot replace the criticism of
> arms.  Karl Marx -- Introduction to the critique of Hegel's Philosophy of
> the right, 1843.
> 
> 
> 



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