[3514] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: sell shell accounts?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jim Van Baalen)
Fri Jul 19 17:52:22 1996
From: Jim Van Baalen <vansax@atmnet.net>
To: freedman@netaxs.com (Avi Freedman)
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 14:48:52 -0700 (PDT)
Cc: vansax@atmnet.net, richards@netrex.com, agislist@interstice.com,
nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <199607192117.RAA23432@netaxs.com> from "Avi Freedman" at Jul 19, 96 05:17:19 pm
Here is the senario I was thinking about
Case 1
R1 --- R2 --- R3
Case 2
R1 --- SW --- R3
|
|
R2
Assume that the wide area segments are the same in both cases and that SW and
R2 are collocated. In case 1 there are 2 router hops between R1 and R3. In case
2, given a full mesh of PVCs, R1 and R2 are only one hop apart. This does not
imply that the traffic flows any differently relative to the physical paths
taken, but if I do a traceroute I think it will look different. Am I missing
the point here?
Jim
>
> > If you have full use of the fiber across which you move your packets you
> > can create a mesh of PVCs directly connecting each router thus decreasing
> > the hop count. The same can be done when using an existing cell-relay cloud,
> > but you pay on a per pvc basis so the benefit needs to be weighed against the
> > cost. Of course the packets still flow along the same physical path and in a
> > wide area network the time in transit will be more significant than the time
> > to get through the routers.
> >
> > Jim
>
> Nope, remember - there is no magic. Any mesh of PVCs that one makes
> over a switched network must reflect the toplogy of that network, and
> one can set up a matching set of active routing sessions and route
> weights which will cause traffic to flow the same way.
>
> Yes, the switches are a bit faster and have less to do. Data moves through
> them in a few ms less per point. But as you said (and as I said in our
> discussion in NYC), relative to any distance, the speed of light guarantees
> that you won't notice the difference.
>
> The question is: Will there be routers available that can make IP
> routing decisions based on 40-60kroutes and move 2-3 OC3s worth of
> bidirectional traffic? The building of the configs to have a routed
> network work the same as a switched ATM one can be automated, but it's
> true that it *can be* easier to see what's going on in a large-scale
> switched network.
>
> Avi
>
>
