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Re: Beer and Gear surprise

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John M . Brown)
Wed Feb 21 16:40:36 2001

Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 14:45:29 -0700
From: "John M . Brown" <jmbrown@ihighway.net>
To: Joe McGuckin <joe@monk.via.net>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
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I don't think people come to NANOG for "suitcases of stuff".
In fact I don't even think the orig. poster stated that
he was looking for a suitcase of stuff.


Yes, people come to NANOG and Beer-n-gear for clue.  Another
part is some of the trinkets.

Don't tell me you have NEVER taken a t-shirt home from a
NANOG beer-n-gear vendor.

To have MERIT change the ability to hand out trinkets without
consulting the group is, I think a bit rude.

When Beer-n-Gear first started (NANOG 12, hosted by my company)
it was intended to allow t-shirts and other trinkets to be given
out.

There is a bad apple or two in the NANOG/MERIT group and it
doesn't seem to get fixed.  That person needs to be checked
back into realitiy.  

I think the heart of the matter is MERIT making changes without
informing the group.

Remember its mostly little things that upset people.



On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 12:52:47PM -0800, Joe McGuckin wrote:
> 
> 
> My impression of the beer-n-gear is that it was just like all the 
> other ones - e.g. Juniper, Cisco, etc showed off their latest 
> heavy iron and there was free finger food & beer.
> 
> If you came to NANOG expecting to return home with a suitcase 
> stuffed full of free frisbees, t-shirts and key chains - might 
> I suggest that you attend a gift industry conference next time?
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Joe McGuckin
> 
> ViaNet Communications
> 994 San Antonio Road
> Palo Alto, CA  94303
> 
> Phone: 650-969-2203
> Cell:  650-207-0372
> Fax:   650-969-2124
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