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RE: RE: Monitoring/Trending Software -- Which Package(s) do y

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Berger, Gary)
Wed Feb 21 15:48:05 2001

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From: "Berger, Gary" <Gary.Berger@dowjones.com>
To: CARL P HIRSCH <CARL.P.HIRSCH@slchicago.infonet.com>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:37:26 -0500
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NNM is a great framework tool ( something other point tools plug into) but
its data collection engine is lousy. You are better off with mrtg and rrd as
a back in..




-----Original Message-----
From: CARL P HIRSCH [mailto:CARL.P.HIRSCH@slchicago.infonet.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 6:30 AM
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re:RE: Monitoring/Trending Software -- Which Package(s) do y



Just curious, 
Would HP's Openview Network Node Manager be suitable for this application? I
evaluated NNM some time ago but found it rather bloated and I figured that
it
would really only be truly useful in an HP-UX environment where NNM could
integrate with all the other Openview components. One thing I found
appealing is
that NNM sits on an Oracle backend (according to the marketroids, anyhow),
meaning that you could run reports till the cows came home. I've always been
told that trend analysis is where OpenView Network Node Manager shines.
Plus,
it's Fully Buzzword Compliant. 

Every IT manager's eyes light up when they hear "OpenView", but is it really
useful in a real-world scenario?

For network monitoring, I've actually grown to really like IpSwitch
Software's
WhatsUp Gold. I wrote it off for a long time but grudgingly tried it out
during
a time crunch and was pretty impressed. It's bare-bones, and NT-only, but
it's
so durn easy to get up and running with it in a pinch. It handles ICMP,
SNMP,
and RMON with threshold alerts. I'm thinking it supports a wide variety of
MIBs.
I found its reporting a bit lacking, though. It probably would be more or
less
useless for trend analysis. 

I'm sure I'd get more out of MRTG is I was more comfortable with Perl. One
of my
projects has been to investigate monitoring/trending solutions under
Linux/*BSD.
Apparently somebody just created a Debian distribution for net telemetry
collection. I haven't found much under Linux for RMON yet, and there
certainly
doesn't appear to be anything like a free full-featured monitoring/trending
suite out there. Any suggestions?

-carl hirsch
network analyst
sargent & lundy llc
chicago 60603

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Subject:    RE: Monitoring/Trending Software -- Which Package(s) do you
Author: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
Date:       2/21/01 9:45 AM

Actually you probably need to look at VitalNet.. This is a competing product
to Concorde NetHealth... 


-----Original Message-----
From: John Starta [mailto:john@starta.org]
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 9:23 PM
To: Lee Watterworth

Lucent's VitalSuite (either SP or Enterprise) software is definitely worth
a look. You can find detailed information about it on their web site:
http://www.lucentnps.com/software/

jas

At 05:44 PM 2/20/01 -0500, Lee Watterworth wrote:

>I have been handed the task of finding a monitoring/trending package for
>our network and systems.
>
>I will be looking at the package's collection mechanism for flexibility
>(snmp gets, traps, rmon), and the variety/configurability of the reports
>it can produce.  The package should be able to provide (configurable)
>alerts when threshholds are met/surpassed.
>
>I have been evaluating Concord's eHealth Suite, and would like to evaluate
>other options before I commit to a particular package.
>
>Any feedback would be great.
>
>-Lee.


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