[34808] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Network for Sale
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jay)
Tue Feb 20 02:54:58 2001
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 00:50:11 -0700 (MST)
From: Jay <jay@opnix.com>
To: John Fraizer <nanog@Overkill.EnterZone.Net>
Cc: Troy Corbin <troyc@titan.communitech.net>,
"Majdi S. Abbas" <msa@samurai.sfo.dead-dog.com>, <nanog@merit.edu>
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On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, John Fraizer wrote:
> And just how do you know when someone went through a NAP?
...read the code when OpRoute is released at the end of this month.
> Very interested. I _REALLY_ get off on screwing with marketing hype
> motivated people.
It would seem you _REALLY_ get off on screwing with anyone that does not
think the same way you do. If you would like to carry-on a flame war with
me, why don't we take it off list.
> Let me guess. IRIS doesn't run on the 75xx or 120xx?
No, it doesn't. It does, however, fully integrate with BGP4-enabled
routers -- Cisco, Juniper, Lucent, Nortel, Foundry, Riverstone, etc...
> Rules of thumb in internet marketing to geeks:
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> (1) Make it work with Cisco
> (2) Make it ACT like Cisco
Thanks for the pointers; already covered though. IRIS does work just fine
with Cisco gear and, just like most other network gear CLIs, the IRIS CLI
should act similar to IOS.
> It's real easy when you have ENGINEER types holding the purse. You don't
Four of the five founders of Opnix (including myself) are "engineer
types."
> let the Marketing Types release BULLSHIT to the word. If/When they do,
> you fire their dumb %$$es. It's that simple. They have released
It seems someone with a marketing degree must have pissed in your
Cheerio's or something. Like any other group of people, there are both
good and bad within the group. Like I said, engineering and marketing
usually don't mix well. We all know that. We get plenty of opportunities
to flame marketing and sales people for SPAM on lists -- we probably don't
need to put any more effort into it. :)
Again, if you want to have a flame-war, let's take it off-list.
~Jay
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> John "Never fired a Marketing Type I didn't already hate" Fraizer
> EnterZone, Inc
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~Jay
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