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Re: Reasons why BIND isn't being upgraded

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joe Rhett)
Sun Feb 4 00:30:11 2001

Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 20:30:13 -0800
From: Joe Rhett <jrhett@isite.net>
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Cc: Jeffrey Meltzer <meltzer@villageworld.com>, nanog@merit.edu
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> > > I'm confused.  I get the TLD server operators part.  But you're saying
> > > that you'd only give OS vendors access to this information.  How long does
> > > it take, say, Sun, to issue a patch update?  Wouldn't it be much more
> > > efficient, and useful, to issue the information directly to the people
> > > using the software?  How many people actually use the default vendor
> > > binaries anyways?
> >  
> > Just about every very large company that I've ever worked with. Also,
> > having spent numerous years working the NAVSEA and other Pentagon systems,
> > you are explicitly not permitted to install anything other than a
> > vendor-provided patch.
> > 
> > My god, are there really this many idiots out there that don't grasp how
> > the world works?
> 
> Good.  Reduce yourself to insults and don't even answer the [first]
> question.

You're right about the insult, but the point remains -- it doesn't matter
how long Sun takes. He isn't changing how the security information gets to
the world, he's providing Sun a support channel for assistance integrating
the security fix. 

In my experience (being a paying Sun support contract customer) I've gotten
security fixes from Sun in a time range from 2-6 hours. 6 hours was the
longest time that I've experienced from handing them a security flaw they
didn't know about until I had a valid patch in my hands.

On a closed circuit channel for security updates.

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Joe Rhett                                         Chief Technology Officer
JRhett@ISite.Net                                      ISite Services, Inc.

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