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Re: sorry to ruin several of your evenings...

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Christopher L. Morrow)
Tue Jan 30 16:50:56 2001

Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 16:31:30 -0500 (EST)
From: "Christopher L. Morrow" <cmorrow@UU.NET>
To: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.Nether.net>
Cc: bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com, Stephen Stuart <stuart@mfnx.net>,
	poptix@sleepybox.poptix.net, nanog@merit.edu
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I didn't say I didn't upgrade :) I just said why give out info you don't
need to give out.

--Chris

On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Jared Mauch wrote:

> 
> 	The key here is that if you're going to spend time faking the
> real response of a query that time may be best spent fixing the
> real problem.
> 
> 	People who will now complain about the number of machines they
> need to upgrade, etc.. should now evaluate the costs of running an internet
> connected network.  If these costs or risks are too high for you perhaps
> you need to evaluate your internet connection policies.
> 
> 	- Jared
> 
> On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 09:32:24PM +0000, bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
> > 
> >  lets see... (from previous discussions on the usefullness of tweeking
> >  the version)
> > 	
> > 	wearing my blackhat, i have to decide which system is worthty
> > 	of my talents... which one should I pick?
> > 
> > 	version "bad-ass-bind";  	
> > 	-or-
> > 	version "9.1.0"
> > 
> >  of course I could be running 4.8.1 and simply recompile so it _reports_
> >  a bogus version but the profile of a 9.1.0 code base is -very- distinct
> >  from a 4.8.1 code base... esp on replies to queries.
> > 
> >  Pick your targets carefully.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > Why not jus return some 'bogus' version ??? like this option allows:
> > > 
> > > version "bad-ass-bind";
> > > 
> > > :)
> > > 
> > > --Chris
> > > 
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> > > 
> > > On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Stephen Stuart wrote:
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > While it's not exactly a problem, it does give away that you're running
> > > > > bind9 (I do like the new 'version' option where you can set the
> > > > > version.bind reply) even if you change the version to appear to be a bind8
> > > > > server.
> > > > 
> > > > "allow-query" lets you control who can see that information:
> > > > 
> > > > zone "bind" chaos { 
> > > >         allow-query {
> > > >                 127.0.0.1 ;
> > > >                 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/len ;
> > > >         } ;
> > > >         type master; 
> > > >         file "filename"; 
> > > > };
> > > > 
> > > > Stephen
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 
> -- 
> Jared Mauch  | pgp key available via finger from jared@puck.nether.net
> clue++;      | http://puck.nether.net/~jared/  My statements are only mine.
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> 



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