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RE: Network diversity Software diversity

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Roeland Meyer)
Fri Jan 26 03:19:47 2001

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From: Roeland Meyer <rmeyer@mhsc.com>
To: "'Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu'" <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu>,
	Roeland Meyer <rmeyer@mhsc.com>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 00:12:32 -0800
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> From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu [mailto:Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 11:48 PM
> 
> On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 22:40:50 PST, Roeland Meyer said:
> > Okay, how do you do security, in Win2K, without a domain 
> controller? 
> > How do you do a Win2K domain without active directory?
> 
> Contrary to what many puntits would have you believe, you don't
> need to be in a domain and be running AD just to serve up static HTML.
> Beware such pundits - they are probably trying to sell you 
> either a software
> or hardware upgrade. ;)

> You don't even need to be running Win2K.  I hear even NT 4.0 does
> a passable job once you install all the IIS patches. ;)

Actually, Linux does it better w/ Apache. But, IIS is a better RAD
environment. But, that isn't the issue. The track started about DNS at MSFT.
Windows networks have Win domain controllers ...

> > > From: Eric Germann [mailto:ekgermann@cctec.com]
> > > 
> > > Uhh, I highly doubt they have a requirement to run DDNS on 
> > > the front ends.  If all you're doing is serving up html pages 
> > > without user authentication, Win2K is perfectly happy with 
> > > its own internal account database.  DDNS is a pre-req for AD, 
> 
> As Eric said.... you don't need bells and whistles.  And if you're
> building a machine that *has* to work, you probably want to avoid
> bellls and whistles, as broken bell and whistle parts get jammed in
> the gears and cause failures....

MSFT is not running static anything.


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