[33754] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Involuntary outages may start at 7am PST
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Fraizer)
Tue Jan 23 00:19:48 2001
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 00:15:03 -0500 (EST)
From: John Fraizer <nanog@EnterZone.Net>
To: Nathan Stratton <nathan@robotics.net>
Cc: Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com>, nanog@merit.edu
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Nathan,
There is a difference between wider temp and humidity limits and running
them hot and dry (dry is bad here. Might be good there. We humidify like
it's going out of style this time of year).
I've walked into datacenters that were 60deg. There is NO need for
that. Even 78deg for a few hours is better than the risk of introducing
more failure modes. IE; rolling-blackouts start. (1) UPS fails during
generator spin-up time. (2) Generator(s) fail. (3) Transfer switch fails.
Right now, it doesn't matter what the mess was caused by. If you have
equipment in an effected area, you're in reactive mode and anything that
keeps the equipment running and reduces the chances of being hit by forced
power outages is better than nothing.
lights-out ops and shutting down non-essential equipment (the NORAD wall
of 100inch monitors at the NOC, laser printers, blah blah) should not have
any adverse effect on your operations at all but can make a difference.
---
John Fraizer
EnterZone, Inc
On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Nathan Stratton wrote:
>
> On 22 Jan 2001, Sean Donelan wrote:
>
> > Have any Internet providers or private data centers announced any
> > voluntary "good neighbor" measures such as wider temperature and humdity
> > limits, lights-out operation, off-peak use of heavy electrical demands
> > for laser printers, etc.
>
> Don't take this the wrong way, but frankly I would not be happy if my colo
> providers started implementing wider temperature and humdity limits. I pay
> large amounts of money for colo and I want what I am paying for. This mess
> was caused by California regulators and very very greedy PG&E who gambled
> on lower rates and lost. PG&E should be forces to liquidate other out of
> state assets and buy power at the market.
>
> -Nathan
>
>
