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Re: Inter-provider communications (Re: nobody @home)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dan Hollis)
Mon Jan 22 01:19:13 2001

Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 22:18:18 -0800 (PST)
From: Dan Hollis <goemon@sasami.anime.net>
To: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.Nether.net>
Cc: Steve Sobol <sjsobol@NorthShoreTechnologies.net>,
	Patrick Greenwell <patrick@cybernothing.org>, <nanog@nanog.org>
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On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Jared Mauch wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 09:41:49PM -0500, Steve Sobol wrote:
> > I'm just waiting for one of the big NSPs to be sued due to complicity in
> > an attack. That, essentially, is what we're dealing with.
> 	I don't see that happening anytime.  If it's big enough to sue over
> the law enforcement agencies get involved and they tend to get the
> attention required to stop these attacks on the isp/nsp side.

By the time law enforcement has to be involved to convince a tier1 to
shut off their ddos sources, it's far past the point of complicity and the
preventable monetary damages have already occurred. You can bet someones
going to get sued.

Sadly, it's probably going to take a high profile lawsuit to get the
tier1s to shape up their act.

-Dan



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