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RE: Second day of rolling blackouts starts
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mathew Butler)
Thu Jan 18 19:44:25 2001
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From: Mathew Butler <mbutler@tonbu.com>
To: 'Miles Fidelman' <mfidelman@civicnet.org>,
Roeland Meyer <rmeyer@mhsc.com>
Cc: 'Sean Donelan' <sean@donelan.com>, nanog@merit.edu
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:48:58 -0800
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Los Angeles rates have stayed the same, and they're not having any problems.
(It's a public utility, and thus wasn't forced into competition at the same
rate as the private companies.)
-Mat Butler
-----Original Message-----
From: Miles Fidelman [mailto:mfidelman@civicnet.org]
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 11:12 AM
To: Roeland Meyer
Cc: 'Sean Donelan'; nanog@merit.edu
Subject: RE: Second day of rolling blackouts starts
On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Roeland Meyer wrote:
> What's wrong with this picture? I see the generators, holding a shotgun at
> PG&E's neck, and telling the state that they'll pull the triggers if the
> state doesn't come up with the dough. They're not even wearing a mask!
Yet,
> no one is seeing anything wrong with this and they're acting like it's
> PG&E's fault.
Is the situation any different in the LA area, where Los Angelas Water and
Power is city-owned, and they own a big chunk of their own hydro capacity
(or were they forced to divest that)>
Miles Fidelman
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Los Angeles rates have stayed the same, and they're =
not having any problems. (It's a public utility, and thus wasn't =
forced into competition at the same rate as the private =
companies.)</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-Mat Butler</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Miles Fidelman [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:mfidelman@civicnet.org">mailto:mfidelman@civicnet.org</A>=
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 11:12 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: Roeland Meyer</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Cc: 'Sean Donelan'; nanog@merit.edu</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: RE: Second day of rolling blackouts =
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Roeland Meyer wrote:</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>> What's wrong with this picture? I see the =
generators, holding a shotgun at</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> PG&E's neck, and telling the state that =
they'll pull the triggers if the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> state doesn't come up with the dough. They're =
not even wearing a mask! Yet,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> no one is seeing anything wrong with this and =
they're acting like it's</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> PG&E's fault.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Is the situation any different in the LA area, where =
Los Angelas Water and</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Power is city-owned, and they own a big chunk of =
their own hydro capacity</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>(or were they forced to divest that)></FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Miles Fidelman</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>The Center for Civic Networking =
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Newtonville, MA 02460-0006</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Strategies Program =
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617-558-3698 fax: 617-630-8946</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Information Infrastructure: Public Spaces for the =
21st Century </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Let's Start With: Internet Wall-Plugs Everywhere =
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Say It Often, Say It Loud: "I Want My =
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