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Re: net.terrorism

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Henry R. Linneweh)
Wed Jan 10 04:29:32 2001

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Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 01:23:13 -0800
From: "Henry R. Linneweh" <linneweh@concentric.net>
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"Henry R. Linneweh" wrote:

> Because it seems we have denigrated to finger pointing and attacking
> members of the list, in spite of the concenses opinion that we would
> not do this to each other. net.terrorism is a very poor choice of words
> since no carrier is required to carry traffic that is deemed harmful to
> its downstream client's and to use this list to blackmail or harm
> anyone's interest violates the operational fabric of the entire group.
>
> This is shameful and unprofessional in my humble opinion and should
> cease now.
>
> Paul A Vixie wrote:
>
> > > After this mail, we contacted Above.net again. They basically told us it
> > > was for our own protection
> >
> > no.
> >
> > >                            because that traffic from that host does not
> > > comply to their AUP.
> >
> > yes.
> >
> > >                        We specifically told them we really don't mind them
> > > blackholing that host but *announcing* a route for it. So far no response.
> >
> > you expect abovenet to cut uunet's /16 into pieces so as to avoid sending to
> > its customers the parts which violate abovenet's acceptable use guidelines?
> > even if this were a scalable approach (considering the number of /16's which
> > have violating /32's inside them, or will in the future), it's something i'd
> > expect the owner of the /16 to take issue with.
> >
> > why are we discussing this on nanog?
> >
> > Paul Vixie <pvixie@mmfn.com>
> > CTO and SVP, MFN (NASDAQ: MFNX)
>
> --
>
> Thank you;
> |--------------------------------|
> | Thinking is a learned process. |
> | ICANN member @large            |
> | Gigabit over IP, ieee 802.17   |
> | working group                  |
> | Resilient Packet Transport     |
> |--------------------------------|
> Henry R. Linneweh

--

Thank you;
|--------------------------------|
| Thinking is a learned process. |
| ICANN member @large            |
| Gigabit over IP, ieee 802.17   |
| working group                  |
| Resilient Packet Transport     |
|--------------------------------|
Henry R. Linneweh




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